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that's what inspired john mccain, kelly, who is a critic of hagel's to come back to his defense against this freshman senator from texas who is raising the suggestion that he had taken money even from pyongyang or from iran. >> well, what's interesting about mccain's position here is that he has said very clearly that he does not believe that chuck hagel was the right choice in this instance. he believes his performance at his hearing was poor. he took real issue with his fellow republican ted cruz of texas and said that chuck hagel is an honorable man and wanted to defend him in this process. where it gets harder for mccain is that lindsey graham is perhaps his greatest ally in the senate, and he believes that there are legitimate questions about benghazi still to be answered. not so much looking at the past, although politically that's what they want to do. also trying to make sure that they understand what's going on with some of these issues as they may pertain to future hot spots. mccain is not jumping to the ted cruz bandwagon, but i would surmise that he wants to be protective of
that's what inspired john mccain, kelly, who is a critic of hagel's to come back to his defense against this freshman senator from texas who is raising the suggestion that he had taken money even from pyongyang or from iran. >> well, what's interesting about mccain's position here is that he has said very clearly that he does not believe that chuck hagel was the right choice in this instance. he believes his performance at his hearing was poor. he took real issue with his fellow...
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remember, john mccain was the guy who negotiated that deal to stop the nuclear option before? remember, he was the one that stood in the way of the very idea of filibustering cabinet nominees, and now he has gone off the reservation. i think this is as much a bad precedent, it makes the senate like the house. >> that is a terrifying concept for anybody that wants to see anything happen in washington. i want to talk about the other nominees that are being held up. some perhaps for more legitimate reasons. john brennan is -- the committee vote on john brennan as cia director is going to be held in the last week of february. dianne feinstein says they are awaiting more drone memos from the white house. ran paul is leading the charge on this. he says i'm going to object in any way we can until we find out whether or not the head of the cia claims the authority to kill americans without a trial with a drone in america. >> which is an amazing thing for a conservative republican senator to be saying. to making an unimaginably soft on military power left wing argument against john bre
remember, john mccain was the guy who negotiated that deal to stop the nuclear option before? remember, he was the one that stood in the way of the very idea of filibustering cabinet nominees, and now he has gone off the reservation. i think this is as much a bad precedent, it makes the senate like the house. >> that is a terrifying concept for anybody that wants to see anything happen in washington. i want to talk about the other nominees that are being held up. some perhaps for more...
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john mccain said that chuck hagel would be a great member of cabinet. he spoke of chuck hagel as a tremendous secretary of state. >> political betrayal is a worse sin than being a member of the opposing party, so you have john mccain in the hearing really going after chuck hagel, especially after iraq and the sunshine. but then you have a committee hearing and the new senator from texas, cruz, goes after chuck hagel where then john mccain defends him. it's baffling, it's like we're in a sort of upside down tonka toy world. >> we saw with his nomination something truly extraordinary which is the government of iran formally and publicly praising the nomination of a defense secretary. >> senator hagel is an honorable man, he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> john mccain or roy blount are critical here if they don't participate in this filibuster, it seems as though he will move ahead. what's changed from when john mccain thought that chuck hagel was worthy of a nomination until
john mccain said that chuck hagel would be a great member of cabinet. he spoke of chuck hagel as a tremendous secretary of state. >> political betrayal is a worse sin than being a member of the opposing party, so you have john mccain in the hearing really going after chuck hagel, especially after iraq and the sunshine. but then you have a committee hearing and the new senator from texas, cruz, goes after chuck hagel where then john mccain defends him. it's baffling, it's like we're in a...
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with us, senator john mccain. how do you think this wraps up? >> well, i think it wraps up with us coming back from recess. we're in recess next week. we never miss a recess. and we'll be back following tuesday and i believe we'll vote for hagel and there will be sufficient votes to overcome any requirements there may be. and i think we'll vote his nomination on a party line basis, just about, what rare exception. look, we didn't get the answers to many questions, we just got the answers to major questions that senator graham, senator aye i don't ayotte and i had this morning. even though harry reid has a good memory, he has a memory loss here. in 1989 they filibuster or prevented senator tower's nomination. we didn't have a secretary of defense for three months. it didn't seem to bother harry reid or carl levin at the time. >> i forgot that. i am curious why it got to this point. i know you were looking for answers on benghazi, then it expanded into hagel's finances and trying to get to the bottom of it so it got complicated. but it always went
with us, senator john mccain. how do you think this wraps up? >> well, i think it wraps up with us coming back from recess. we're in recess next week. we never miss a recess. and we'll be back following tuesday and i believe we'll vote for hagel and there will be sufficient votes to overcome any requirements there may be. and i think we'll vote his nomination on a party line basis, just about, what rare exception. look, we didn't get the answers to many questions, we just got the answers...
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and you have senator john mccain,. jenna: roy blunt, they have said that they would not sign onto a filibuster before but now they are being swayed by opponents of hagel, saying you need to stick with us. bill: reid is talk pweugt i. don't know italking about it. our producer on scene is saying reid is saying this is not h it's not football we are trying to confirm a secretary of defense. then he goes onto say this it's shocking my colleagues would leave the country without a secretary of defense. just reading this. bret, cabinet level nominees rarely require 60 votes to overcome a threatened filibuster. >> reporter: it's only happened three times. bill: what it says here is two in history so far have been required to clear a cloture vote of 60 votes. it's rare. >> reporter: very rare. i don't think it's happened ever for secretary of defense. i'll have to check that. it's very rare. and senator reid is on the floor berating republicans for doing this. yet u know, opponents say there are a number of substantive reasons
and you have senator john mccain,. jenna: roy blunt, they have said that they would not sign onto a filibuster before but now they are being swayed by opponents of hagel, saying you need to stick with us. bill: reid is talk pweugt i. don't know italking about it. our producer on scene is saying reid is saying this is not h it's not football we are trying to confirm a secretary of defense. then he goes onto say this it's shocking my colleagues would leave the country without a secretary of...
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especially when we talk about chuck hagel because basically john mccain gave john kerry a piggy back ride to his hearing. he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise republicans to remember, eventually they're going to get the white house back and they're not going to want to have this on the other side. they should treat all the nominees with the proper respect. they can question it and vote against them, but don't do this filibuster thing. >> is getting 60 votes in the senate going to be the standard moving forward? >> i don't think it will. you are seeing a movement to get away from that. they're not going to fundamentally filibuster, they'
especially when we talk about chuck hagel because basically john mccain gave john kerry a piggy back ride to his hearing. he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of...
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on tuesday, senator john mccain stood up to his colleague, ted cruz, and defended hagel. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> but yesterday, mccain told politico he hasn't made up his mind on a filibuster and was waiting to see whether the white house will respond to a letter requesting more information about not hagel, but about obama's actions and orders the night of the benghazi attack. quote, we are hoping to get an answer to a simple question. and what did the president do during benghazi is now becoming a rallying cry. >> know the debate on chuck hagel is not over. it has not been serious. we don't have the information we need. and i am going to fight the idea of jamming somebody through. i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you, absolutely! you're not going to get away with not answering basic questions. >> the vote is going to be close. and senate democrats are bracing themselves for republicans denying them 60 votes. two republican senators are supporting hagel's
on tuesday, senator john mccain stood up to his colleague, ted cruz, and defended hagel. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> but yesterday, mccain told politico he hasn't made up his mind on a filibuster and was waiting to see whether the white house will respond to a letter requesting more information about not hagel, but about obama's actions and orders the night...
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when john mccain ran for president, of course, at one point in time chuck hagel and john mccain were the same kand of couple around here that lindsey graham and john mccain are. >> good amigos. >> very close. good friends. >> let's look now at a comment made by your former colleague richard lugar of indiana. he had this to say about why republicans are obstructing hagel's nomination. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican who has questioned policies that are sacred among most conservative senators. the intensity of opposition that senator is encountering is grounded in the resentments of some conservatives inside and outside the senate who regard his independent thinking as political blasphemy for which he should not be rewarded. >> senator, you know the senate now. this is your second term. can you read it? is there going to be a vote to twri to get cloture to end this filibuster when you come back on monday after this monday? >> well, that's what's so sad about this game. everyone voting today knows that chuck hague sel going to be confirmed. in fact, ther
when john mccain ran for president, of course, at one point in time chuck hagel and john mccain were the same kand of couple around here that lindsey graham and john mccain are. >> good amigos. >> very close. good friends. >> let's look now at a comment made by your former colleague richard lugar of indiana. he had this to say about why republicans are obstructing hagel's nomination. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican who has questioned...
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after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. this is purely about political grandstanding. and speaking of that john boehner is using the senate to excuse his complete lack of action in the house. >> the president likes to attack congress but if he's serious about enacting his agenda, i think it must start with the part of this congress, the united states senate. why can't he get past in the united states senate? >> michael: that's a really good question mr. speaker. let's get to work, senate democrats. joining me now philip ewing. he comes to us from washington, d.c. philip, welcome inside "the war room"." >> thanks for having me. >> michael: let's just start at the basics about hagel. once the senate gets closure what will be next for chuck hagel? >> the way it will probably work is that republicans want to vote on thursday to end debate on hagel. it doesn't look like democrats have the votes to stop their barricade,
after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. this is purely about political grandstanding. and speaking of that john boehner is using the senate to excuse his complete lack of action in the house. >> the president likes to attack congress but if he's serious about enacting his agenda, i think it must start with the part of...
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late today, procedural vote failed after senator john mccain had made the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your thoughts and your contributions. i think most all of us in public office feel that way. >> among questions, speeches like to one in june 13, 2008, before the arab american antidiscrimination committee that hagel did not disclose to armed services committee. earlier they blasted republicans for holding up hagel's nomination to lead the pentagon. >> it's shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation would a fully empowered secretary of defense. during all the things we have going on in the world, including a war. >> but panetta isn't leaving yet. and 60-vote requirement is not unusual, say republicans and reid was fine when it was president bush's nominees. top republicans say members have legitimate concerns. >> those of us in the minority on t
late today, procedural vote failed after senator john mccain had made the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your thoughts and your contributions. i think most all of us in public office feel that way. >> among questions, speeches like to one in june 13, 2008,...
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it sounds like john mccain and some others given to next week will do it. in a larger picture we're talking about perhaps a week and then hagel will continue on as before. that doesn't mean it's a good thing that there's been a filibuster of a national security cabinet appointee for the first time in the nation's history and i think this is the only third filibuster of any cabinet appointee in history. so it's an extraordinary thing, completely unnecessary, and we can continue on with our regularly scheduled governmental programming next week. >> yes. congratulations to the republicans. john, senator ted cruz's assertions have been the most spurious and destructive. this suggestion that chuck hagel may have taken money from terrorist organizations, from the iranians, from somebody that is an opponent of this nation. your reaction to that because senator ben nelson called it rightly when he said it was unpatriotic. they're dressing this guy up in smears and slurs. >> it's interesting to contrast somebody like senator ted cruz from texas with another freshman
it sounds like john mccain and some others given to next week will do it. in a larger picture we're talking about perhaps a week and then hagel will continue on as before. that doesn't mean it's a good thing that there's been a filibuster of a national security cabinet appointee for the first time in the nation's history and i think this is the only third filibuster of any cabinet appointee in history. so it's an extraordinary thing, completely unnecessary, and we can continue on with our...
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there has been no alliance between john mccain and president obama. jon: again so interesting that a former republican senator is getting held up by primarily by people he used to be arm in arm with, his fellow republicans in the senate. >> yes. jon: we'll keep an eye on this story. bob cusack from "the hill." thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: u.s. general john allen announcing he is retiring as nato supreme allied commander in europe. was it his decision? was he pushed out? what is the real backstory here? we have a live report ahead. >>> also a brutal brawl at an oregon skating rink caught on video. the latest for the search for the suspects is straight ahead. jon: coming up new next hour, looks like the end of the miss rememberry -- misery cruise. they're back in port after spending days in does gifting conditions. their ordeal may not end once they set foot on land. >>> new signs iran is ramping up its nuclear program. what scientists reportedly purchased that could speed up their ability to produce nuclear weapons. >>> today is valentines's day i
there has been no alliance between john mccain and president obama. jon: again so interesting that a former republican senator is getting held up by primarily by people he used to be arm in arm with, his fellow republicans in the senate. >> yes. jon: we'll keep an eye on this story. bob cusack from "the hill." thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: u.s. general john allen announcing he is retiring as nato supreme allied commander in europe. was it his decision? was he pushed...
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number one, this comes from people like john mccain and others who very much oppose enhanced interrogation. >> john and i argued on many occasions. >> rose: exactly right. and he has some experience, as obviously he does. and other people, a, because of american values, even stanley mcchrystal has said this. >> i read his book. it's a good book. >> rose: all right. do you agree with his position? >> no. >> rose: and when we say "enhanced interrogation" why don't we call it what many people believe it ought to be called, torture. >> because it'snot. >> rose: what's the difference? >> the diffence is we went through a very long, difficult, and elaborate process with the justice department before we started the enhanced interrogation programs, we said "tell us where the red line is." at the agency as we were dealing with the need to find ways to get more intelligence from the people that we're capturing, the conclusion was we needed to be able to use more aggressive techniques. but nobody wanted to use techniques that put us over the line into the area of torture because of the international
number one, this comes from people like john mccain and others who very much oppose enhanced interrogation. >> john and i argued on many occasions. >> rose: exactly right. and he has some experience, as obviously he does. and other people, a, because of american values, even stanley mcchrystal has said this. >> i read his book. it's a good book. >> rose: all right. do you agree with his position? >> no. >> rose: and when we say "enhanced...
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people like john mccain, marco rubio who are seriously invested in the process of putting together a comprehensive bill. they see the politics have changed on this issue. they're trying to convince their party that now is the time to get behind a comprehensive bill that includes border security measures, that includes enforcement mechanisms and includes a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants that democrats are pushing. there is a chance to get it done but it's not going to be easy. the senate will be tough and the house is going to be even harder. >> warner: norm, do you see it this way, that there is a prospect here and that you've got a change of mind at least among some republicans? >> yes, there's no doubt. six months ago we would have said no way will we do anything on this issue, seriously. the election changed all of that and it's changed the dynamics. but manu is right that we have a couple of big obstacles here. the first is one that janet napolitano basically highlighted: the devil is in the details. a framework is easy in the senate. when y
people like john mccain, marco rubio who are seriously invested in the process of putting together a comprehensive bill. they see the politics have changed on this issue. they're trying to convince their party that now is the time to get behind a comprehensive bill that includes border security measures, that includes enforcement mechanisms and includes a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants that democrats are pushing. there is a chance to get it done but it's...
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senator john mccain is just as upset as you. on this show, ice against them, how our government is handcuffing our border agents. they were outnumbered. taliban fighters have been pinned down and despite taking shrapnel to his neck, he refused to give up his post to the enemy. american hero and medal of honor recipient. he's here living and joining us at the top of joining us at the top of the hour. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's...
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also, john mccain's changing his tune. we praised him yesterday. so he had to reverse course, i guess. so now he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olymp
also, john mccain's changing his tune. we praised him yesterday. so he had to reverse course, i guess. so now he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because...
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john mccain had a press conference earlier today and said he's going to continue asking questions about who knew what, when on benghazi. and those questions will go to john brennan. >> a major setback for the obama administration. chuck hagel still has not been confirmed. they are going to have to wait several more days. we'll see what happens in these days to follow. thanks very much, gloria and dana. let's get back to the other breaking news story we're following. right now we're getting our first look at the unimaginable conditions aboard the stricten cruise ship. it's crawling at a very slow pace. it's being towed by tugboats. the ship is close to land and passengers can send pictures and what a disturbing sight some of these conditions, conditions inside the ship described by some is put trid. at least that's the word that one passenger put out. public areas fouled by raw sewage, people forced to use plastic bags instead of toilets. and take a look at this. our helicopter captured passengers lying on the deck spelling out the world help. the "triumph" is still estimated to be at le
john mccain had a press conference earlier today and said he's going to continue asking questions about who knew what, when on benghazi. and those questions will go to john brennan. >> a major setback for the obama administration. chuck hagel still has not been confirmed. they are going to have to wait several more days. we'll see what happens in these days to follow. thanks very much, gloria and dana. let's get back to the other breaking news story we're following. right now we're...
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people like john mccain and others who are uncomfortable with the precedent of filibuster ing but who will vote no on the final nomination. >> bill: one of the reasons he ought to be uncomfortable is because if, some day, there were ever a republican back in the white house right, they would be setting a precedent that for cabinet appointees, especially defense secretary that the senate would not just advise and consent but could actually veto. i don't think they want that. i don't think they want to set that precedent. >> they don't think they have a chance of winning at the white house any time soon. because they're really shooting themselves in the foot. or god forbid, you have a case where you don't have an -- in either party, you don't have the president controlling the senate. how are you ever going to get a cabinet filled out and get the federal government working at all in any kinds of functional means when this is the precedent that's set. >> bill: it has always been in this country since the beginning, the guy who wins gets to appoint the people he wants to work with him in
people like john mccain and others who are uncomfortable with the precedent of filibuster ing but who will vote no on the final nomination. >> bill: one of the reasons he ought to be uncomfortable is because if, some day, there were ever a republican back in the white house right, they would be setting a precedent that for cabinet appointees, especially defense secretary that the senate would not just advise and consent but could actually veto. i don't think they want that. i don't think...
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mccain: i will just respond to my friend -- and he is my dear friend. i didn't note that sense of urgency for three months when john tower's nomination was held in limbo by the then majority of democrats. the secretary of defense post was vacant at that time as well. so this is not the first time in history that a secretary of defense's position has been vacant. the and, again, i hope that we can get this resolved, moved forward, and i think that the senator from michigan and my friend understands that we can get this issue resolved on the day that we return from the recess. certainly there is, i believe, sufficient votes to invoke cloture at that time. mr. levin: madam president, if the senator -- the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. mr. levin: if the senator from arizona would yield for a minute -- and he is my dear friend -- i don't believe that senator tower was filibustered. there was a delay in et going to that vote. but i don't believe there was a requirement that there be -- and i may be wrong on this -- but i don't believe there wa
mccain: i will just respond to my friend -- and he is my dear friend. i didn't note that sense of urgency for three months when john tower's nomination was held in limbo by the then majority of democrats. the secretary of defense post was vacant at that time as well. so this is not the first time in history that a secretary of defense's position has been vacant. the and, again, i hope that we can get this resolved, moved forward, and i think that the senator from michigan and my friend...